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Transpose either Briggs' or Rice notation into TAB.

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Comment by Genford Brewington on June 12, 2012 at 12:36pm

This just made my day!

Comment by Tim Twiss on June 12, 2012 at 12:37pm

Oh good. If you understand rhythms, there is nothing you can't do.

Comment by Strumelia on June 12, 2012 at 1:33pm

Tim, I have a question about keys and tunings-

Right now I've learned Rice's version of 'Juba', which has a tuning of dGDF#A that you demonstrate in your lesson video.   When I play Juba in that tuning, it sounds like I am playing it in the key of G.  The key signature of G usually has one sharp ...but that would categorize it in the staff for Briggs notation that you show here.  Yet in reading the standard notation, it falls within the Rice notation sample above. 

What am I not understanding?   Thanks!

Comment by Tim Twiss on June 12, 2012 at 2:41pm

Don't confuse pitch and tuning....

Comment by Strumelia on June 12, 2012 at 3:09pm

Ok, I'll try not to once I know how.    :)   

(wandering off thunking myself upside the haid)

Comment by Tim Twiss on June 12, 2012 at 4:21pm

It is simple and confusing at the same time, I know.

Almost like when all of us had band as a kid and the teacher would say "play a concert Bb" and I would play a "C" on my trumpet.

We should get some standard of understanding here....it comes up over and over. I'm not attempting to explain it here. It might add more confusion. Most people keep their instruments tuned to "D" like Briggs. You do not have to retune to play the Rice stuff. It's all relative to where you place the thumstring notes. 

Briggs   vs. Rice

D = E        ## = ####

G = A        #   = ##

Tab is the equalizer in all this. Notice the Rosetta. The thumbstring can be either a D or an E 

Comment by Strumelia on June 12, 2012 at 8:27pm

I think I'm beginning to understand it....!

Comment by Tim Twiss on June 12, 2012 at 8:31pm

Just keep asking...and talk about it. The light will shine pretty soon.

Comment by Tim Twiss on June 12, 2012 at 9:09pm

Juba....could be notated in G, or A. The tab would look the same.. (I hope a little more helps....not messing you up more..ha ha)

Comment by Strumelia on June 12, 2012 at 9:31pm

I think(?) it's like when in clawhammer you can tune to double C tuning but simply 'pretend' you are playing in double D tuning...the tab would be the same, and the intervals between the open strings are the same, just one whole step down on all strings, and you'd 'really' be playing in C rather than D.  It wouldn't matter so much unless you were playing with someone else who was either in C or D, or unless you have trouble singing in a particular key.

In your diagram, is the last pair of sharps supposed to be ### then, for A?:

Briggs   vs. Rice

D = E        ## = ####

G = A        #   = ##

So the 'practical' issue we encounter in reading the banjo tutors rather than tab is that the notes are located in different places on the staff, similar to when a violinist and a cellist are reading sheet music in treble clef or bass clef respectively.

Is that correct?

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