Violin tuning - Minstrel Banjo2024-03-28T18:05:11Zhttp://minstrelbanjo.ning.com/forum/topics/violin-tuning?xg_source=activity&id=2477478%3ATopic%3A173142&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI imagined it being more comf…tag:minstrelbanjo.ning.com,2018-06-21:2477478:Comment:1734462018-06-21T20:23:52.829ZChris Prietohttp://minstrelbanjo.ning.com/profile/caprieto
<p>I imagined it being more comfortable and something I could do loose but once you said it wasn't relaxing it clicked that I am holding an instrument in place with my face so it prolly won't be too comfy haha but I got it in place now, been practicing no fret hand to get it down. I am enjoying it tho.</p>
<p>I imagined it being more comfortable and something I could do loose but once you said it wasn't relaxing it clicked that I am holding an instrument in place with my face so it prolly won't be too comfy haha but I got it in place now, been practicing no fret hand to get it down. I am enjoying it tho.</p> Joel is correct on the chin r…tag:minstrelbanjo.ning.com,2018-06-21:2477478:Comment:1734452018-06-21T19:43:22.757ZAl Smitleyhttp://minstrelbanjo.ning.com/profile/AlSmitley
<p>Joel is correct on the chin rests. Forgot to mention that. Forgot about shoulder rests, too. I use them both and would have an even harder time without them. So, when I said it was not relaxing somehow helped you hold it in place?!?! Didn't know those words could work magic!</p>
<p>Joel is correct on the chin rests. Forgot to mention that. Forgot about shoulder rests, too. I use them both and would have an even harder time without them. So, when I said it was not relaxing somehow helped you hold it in place?!?! Didn't know those words could work magic!</p> Well the main issue was I tun…tag:minstrelbanjo.ning.com,2018-06-21:2477478:Comment:1737372018-06-21T13:55:33.398ZChris Prietohttp://minstrelbanjo.ning.com/profile/caprieto
<p>Well the main issue was I tuned them in wrong order per Howes reversed diagram. So it sounds "good" now. I did order a new set of nicer strings.</p>
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<p>I also tried with no chin rest or shoulder pad buts it's the only way I can keep it in place. Once Al mentioned it's not relaxing I was able to keep it in place fine with all rests attached.</p>
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<p>Once I can keep the notes sounding purty I will venture into a real violin with guts and no frills. I do however feel due my size…</p>
<p>Well the main issue was I tuned them in wrong order per Howes reversed diagram. So it sounds "good" now. I did order a new set of nicer strings.</p>
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<p>I also tried with no chin rest or shoulder pad buts it's the only way I can keep it in place. Once Al mentioned it's not relaxing I was able to keep it in place fine with all rests attached.</p>
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<p>Once I can keep the notes sounding purty I will venture into a real violin with guts and no frills. I do however feel due my size and sloped shoulders that I will always need the chin rest regardless of how authentic I wanna be.</p> Could it be that part of your…tag:minstrelbanjo.ning.com,2018-06-21:2477478:Comment:1735382018-06-21T11:55:30.060ZJoel Hookshttp://minstrelbanjo.ning.com/profile/deuceswilde
<p>Could it be that part of your tuning problems are with the strings? Violins were gut string up to just befor WW1. There was a shortage of strings and some pros started using a wire first. This made it okay to use a wire first but the rest of the strings were still gut (the 4th was wound) up until the 1940s. I only know this because my banjo string research had me lookin into the WW1 string shortage and violinists wrote more about this in magazines like “The Strad.”</p>
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<p>Could it be that part of your tuning problems are with the strings? Violins were gut string up to just befor WW1. There was a shortage of strings and some pros started using a wire first. This made it okay to use a wire first but the rest of the strings were still gut (the 4th was wound) up until the 1940s. I only know this because my banjo string research had me lookin into the WW1 string shortage and violinists wrote more about this in magazines like “The Strad.”</p>
<p>Chin rest—- those are later too. You just don’t see them before about 1900 or so.</p> They help. Not particularly…tag:minstrelbanjo.ning.com,2018-06-20:2477478:Comment:1729362018-06-20T22:26:22.213ZAl Smitleyhttp://minstrelbanjo.ning.com/profile/AlSmitley
<p>They help. Not particularly "authentic" probably but I confess to having them. Strum, I have never had any problem tuning my Hartel Sweeney (with friction pegs). Somehow fiddles seem different.</p>
<p>They help. Not particularly "authentic" probably but I confess to having them. Strum, I have never had any problem tuning my Hartel Sweeney (with friction pegs). Somehow fiddles seem different.</p> I will admit the fine tuners…tag:minstrelbanjo.ning.com,2018-06-20:2477478:Comment:1729352018-06-20T21:42:50.016ZChris Prietohttp://minstrelbanjo.ning.com/profile/caprieto
<p>I will admit the fine tuners are a very nice addition. I was very nervous tuning up last night, but it was easy with then lil guys</p>
<p>I will admit the fine tuners are a very nice addition. I was very nervous tuning up last night, but it was easy with then lil guys</p> Hey at least fiddles usually…tag:minstrelbanjo.ning.com,2018-06-20:2477478:Comment:1732422018-06-20T21:40:52.001ZStrumeliahttp://minstrelbanjo.ning.com/profile/Strumelia
<p>Hey at least fiddles usually have fine tuners, unlike most minstrel banjers.</p>
<p>Hey at least fiddles usually have fine tuners, unlike most minstrel banjers.</p> Yes, David Caron. I agree. …tag:minstrelbanjo.ning.com,2018-06-20:2477478:Comment:1729322018-06-20T21:35:42.081ZAl Smitleyhttp://minstrelbanjo.ning.com/profile/AlSmitley
<p>Yes, David Caron. I agree. That's why I'm not much interested in cross-tuning, etc. Also, I hate to put on a new string. When I tune it up with the small friction pegs, all the other ones give way. But to be somewhat "authentic", I refrain from geared tuners. It is, indeed, a PITA!</p>
<p>Yes, David Caron. I agree. That's why I'm not much interested in cross-tuning, etc. Also, I hate to put on a new string. When I tune it up with the small friction pegs, all the other ones give way. But to be somewhat "authentic", I refrain from geared tuners. It is, indeed, a PITA!</p> My big beef with the fiddle i…tag:minstrelbanjo.ning.com,2018-06-20:2477478:Comment:1731832018-06-20T21:07:23.551Zdavid caronhttp://minstrelbanjo.ning.com/profile/davidcaron
<p>My big beef with the fiddle is just trying to get it in tune. Why must it be so complicated!!!???</p>
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<p>Contrary to the banjo though, there are a number of super talented fiddle players in my area. If I ever truly feel like jumping in, at least I can take some lessons from some actual pros</p>
<p>My big beef with the fiddle is just trying to get it in tune. Why must it be so complicated!!!???</p>
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<p>Contrary to the banjo though, there are a number of super talented fiddle players in my area. If I ever truly feel like jumping in, at least I can take some lessons from some actual pros</p> I havent really checked it ou…tag:minstrelbanjo.ning.com,2018-06-20:2477478:Comment:1729312018-06-20T21:06:31.048Zdavid caronhttp://minstrelbanjo.ning.com/profile/davidcaron
<p>I havent really checked it out, but I'm assuming that there are lots of resources here <a href="https://www.fiddlehangout.com/pages/default.asp" target="_blank">https://www.fiddlehangout.com/pages/default.asp</a></p>
<p>I havent really checked it out, but I'm assuming that there are lots of resources here <a href="https://www.fiddlehangout.com/pages/default.asp" target="_blank">https://www.fiddlehangout.com/pages/default.asp</a></p>