Times and Fashion - Minstrel Banjo2024-03-29T10:54:06Zhttp://minstrelbanjo.ning.com/forum/topics/times-and-fashion?commentId=2477478%3AComment%3A51438&feed=yes&xn_auth=noThanks for sharing those two.…tag:minstrelbanjo.ning.com,2011-09-21:2477478:Comment:515492011-09-21T16:17:45.154ZAl Smitleyhttp://minstrelbanjo.ning.com/profile/AlSmitley
Thanks for sharing those two. This is something that I'm always looking for. Songs that reflect the historical perspectives of the times.
Thanks for sharing those two. This is something that I'm always looking for. Songs that reflect the historical perspectives of the times. Carl, I just did a program ab…tag:minstrelbanjo.ning.com,2011-09-21:2477478:Comment:514452011-09-21T11:04:21.760ZAl Smitleyhttp://minstrelbanjo.ning.com/profile/AlSmitley
<p>Carl, I just did a program about the lead-up to the Civil War, 1820-1861, which included abbreviated verses of 24 songs, including a few on the Mexican War. I'm certain you have these already, but if not, let me know.</p>
<p>-Eight Dollars a Day</p>
<p>-Uncle Sam and Mexico</p>
<p>*Remember the Alamo!</p>
<p>-Oregon and Texas</p>
<p>-We're the Boys for Mexico</p>
<p>*Maid of Monterey</p>
<p>*Buena Vista</p>
<p>I didn't use the asterisked ones. Also, the "Rough & Ready Songster", 1848,…</p>
<p>Carl, I just did a program about the lead-up to the Civil War, 1820-1861, which included abbreviated verses of 24 songs, including a few on the Mexican War. I'm certain you have these already, but if not, let me know.</p>
<p>-Eight Dollars a Day</p>
<p>-Uncle Sam and Mexico</p>
<p>*Remember the Alamo!</p>
<p>-Oregon and Texas</p>
<p>-We're the Boys for Mexico</p>
<p>*Maid of Monterey</p>
<p>*Buena Vista</p>
<p>I didn't use the asterisked ones. Also, the "Rough & Ready Songster", 1848, is online last I knew. There would undoubtedly be more in there. Also, the "Rough & Ready Polka" is a good one but doesn't seem to easily adapt to the banjo. I'd be interested in any gems you find that I haven't listed!</p> Hi Carl,
I'll keep an eye o…tag:minstrelbanjo.ning.com,2011-09-21:2477478:Comment:512532011-09-21T02:48:23.530ZBob Sayershttp://minstrelbanjo.ning.com/profile/BobSayers
<p>Hi Carl,</p>
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<p>I'll keep an eye out for more such material. I've been researching a long-forgotten 19th-century theatrical figure named Professor Risley for several years now and have gotten pretty good at rooting out obscure bits and pieces of early Americana. It's amazing what's currently available on the web in terms of digitized newspapers, periodicals, genealogies, sheet music, and other resources on 19th-century popular culture. I'm looking forward to retirement in a…</p>
<p>Hi Carl,</p>
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<p>I'll keep an eye out for more such material. I've been researching a long-forgotten 19th-century theatrical figure named Professor Risley for several years now and have gotten pretty good at rooting out obscure bits and pieces of early Americana. It's amazing what's currently available on the web in terms of digitized newspapers, periodicals, genealogies, sheet music, and other resources on 19th-century popular culture. I'm looking forward to retirement in a couple of years so that I can put more time into my research interests. Meanwhile, I'm enjoying the Minstrel Banjo ning very much! </p>
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<p>Bob</p> Just amazing. Your hunch was…tag:minstrelbanjo.ning.com,2011-09-21:2477478:Comment:512512011-09-21T01:44:11.669ZCarl Andertonhttp://minstrelbanjo.ning.com/profile/CarlAnderton
<p>Just amazing. Your hunch was right on target, Al.</p>
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<p>I might use this 1845 version at Fort Scott, Ks this fall for some Mex War events. Thank you for sleuthing it out, Bob.</p>
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<p>Say, when you find these Minstrel Songsters in Google Books, please link them up here. Maybe we could have a special area for that? I know quite a few of us are always on the lookout for new material like this.</p>
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<p>Just amazing. Your hunch was right on target, Al.</p>
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<p>I might use this 1845 version at Fort Scott, Ks this fall for some Mex War events. Thank you for sleuthing it out, Bob.</p>
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<p>Say, when you find these Minstrel Songsters in Google Books, please link them up here. Maybe we could have a special area for that? I know quite a few of us are always on the lookout for new material like this.</p>
<p> </p> Good Google-fu, I guess!tag:minstrelbanjo.ning.com,2011-09-21:2477478:Comment:514392011-09-21T00:12:06.057ZBob Sayershttp://minstrelbanjo.ning.com/profile/BobSayers
<p>Good Google-fu, I guess!</p>
<p>Good Google-fu, I guess!</p> Yes, I found it this time. S…tag:minstrelbanjo.ning.com,2011-09-21:2477478:Comment:511582011-09-21T00:00:27.074ZAl Smitleyhttp://minstrelbanjo.ning.com/profile/AlSmitley
<p>Yes, I found it this time. Seems as though there are two collections there and I didn't realize to look for the second of the two. I cannot imagine how you found that!</p>
<p>Thanks, again.</p>
<p>Yes, I found it this time. Seems as though there are two collections there and I didn't realize to look for the second of the two. I cannot imagine how you found that!</p>
<p>Thanks, again.</p> Hi Al,
Were you able to dow…tag:minstrelbanjo.ning.com,2011-09-20:2477478:Comment:512502011-09-20T23:42:43.625ZBob Sayershttp://minstrelbanjo.ning.com/profile/BobSayers
<p>Hi Al,</p>
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<p>Were you able to download the pdf file for "The New Negro Forget-Me-Not Songster?" The page numbers are kind of hard to read, but the song "Matters and Wonders of 1845" is, I think, on page 33 toward the end of the book. If that doesn't work, I'll tell you how to find the reference in Google Books. One of the archivists over the the Smithsonian says that I have excellent "Google-fu." </p>
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<p>Bob</p>
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<p>Hi Al,</p>
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<p>Were you able to download the pdf file for "The New Negro Forget-Me-Not Songster?" The page numbers are kind of hard to read, but the song "Matters and Wonders of 1845" is, I think, on page 33 toward the end of the book. If that doesn't work, I'll tell you how to find the reference in Google Books. One of the archivists over the the Smithsonian says that I have excellent "Google-fu." </p>
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<p>Bob</p>
<p> </p> Thank you, Bob.........I am s…tag:minstrelbanjo.ning.com,2011-09-20:2477478:Comment:514382011-09-20T23:04:36.958ZAl Smitleyhttp://minstrelbanjo.ning.com/profile/AlSmitley
Thank you, Bob.........I am slightly confused, however, I don't see any reference to "Matters and Wonders of 1845" or "Times and Fashion". What am I missing? Maybe I need to take a closer look......or glasses.
Thank you, Bob.........I am slightly confused, however, I don't see any reference to "Matters and Wonders of 1845" or "Times and Fashion". What am I missing? Maybe I need to take a closer look......or glasses. Hi Al,
Times and Fashion" c…tag:minstrelbanjo.ning.com,2011-09-20:2477478:Comment:515392011-09-20T22:37:47.341ZBob Sayershttp://minstrelbanjo.ning.com/profile/BobSayers
<p>Hi Al,</p>
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<p>Times and Fashion" can be found in <em>The New Negro Forget-Me-Not Songster</em>, published by U.P. James, Cincinnati, n.d. This is apparently a collection of songs sung by the Sable Harmonists. The songbook gives the name of the song as "Matters and Wonders of 1845" and the song's author as Silas Steele. But as you'll see from the link, this is clearly "Times and Fashion." And, yes, the tune is "Old Dan Tucker."</p>
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<p>Bob</p>
<p>Hi Al,</p>
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<p>Times and Fashion" can be found in <em>The New Negro Forget-Me-Not Songster</em>, published by U.P. James, Cincinnati, n.d. This is apparently a collection of songs sung by the Sable Harmonists. The songbook gives the name of the song as "Matters and Wonders of 1845" and the song's author as Silas Steele. But as you'll see from the link, this is clearly "Times and Fashion." And, yes, the tune is "Old Dan Tucker."</p>
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<p>Bob</p> I have to think, (though I ha…tag:minstrelbanjo.ning.com,2011-09-19:2477478:Comment:509542011-09-19T00:07:43.758ZAl Smitleyhttp://minstrelbanjo.ning.com/profile/AlSmitley
<p>I have to think, (though I have not done a lot of testing) that Dan Tucker's phrasing makes it somewhat unique, and that not many songs can be adapted to fit it without some strain. Perhaps this makes pondering what "Times and Fashion" sounded like more intriguing. I've searched around, myself, for the melody with no success.</p>
<p>I'm sure you thought of sources which I did not. Thank you for trying!</p>
<p>I have to think, (though I have not done a lot of testing) that Dan Tucker's phrasing makes it somewhat unique, and that not many songs can be adapted to fit it without some strain. Perhaps this makes pondering what "Times and Fashion" sounded like more intriguing. I've searched around, myself, for the melody with no success.</p>
<p>I'm sure you thought of sources which I did not. Thank you for trying!</p>