Michigan Civil War Banjo's - Minstrel Banjo2024-03-29T09:46:19Zhttp://minstrelbanjo.ning.com/forum/topics/michigan-civil-war-banjo-s?commentId=2477478%3AComment%3A59670&feed=yes&xn_auth=noSo much for searching this su…tag:minstrelbanjo.ning.com,2012-01-26:2477478:Comment:620692012-01-26T15:01:27.517ZJeffhttp://minstrelbanjo.ning.com/profile/JeffFauver
So much for searching this subject. My Mac book is dead... Searching from the I phone is not easy. <br></br><br></br><cite>Jeff said:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Terry, Yes we did meet in Midland at the Midland Folk Music Society... You was teaching a clawhammer class... In which I must say was very good and in-lighting. </p>
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<p>As far as High Jacking this thread.... NO WORRIES... I'm sure the banjo was not the only instrument used during the Civil War.... I must say I'm…</p>
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So much for searching this subject. My Mac book is dead... Searching from the I phone is not easy. <br/><br/><cite>Jeff said:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Terry, Yes we did meet in Midland at the Midland Folk Music Society... You was teaching a clawhammer class... In which I must say was very good and in-lighting. </p>
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<p>To all</p>
<p>As far as High Jacking this thread.... NO WORRIES... I'm sure the banjo was not the only instrument used during the Civil War.... I must say I'm impressed with everybody knowledge, thoughts and chiming in... Good stuff good conversations...So by all means keep up with filling in the blanks... I hope we can find the answers to the questions for all of us. </p>
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</blockquote> So much for searching this su…tag:minstrelbanjo.ning.com,2012-01-26:2477478:Comment:619882012-01-26T15:01:27.031ZJeffhttp://minstrelbanjo.ning.com/profile/JeffFauver
So much for searching this subject. My Mac book is dead... Searching from the I phone is not easy. <br></br><br></br><cite>Jeff said:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Terry, Yes we did meet in Midland at the Midland Folk Music Society... You was teaching a clawhammer class... In which I must say was very good and in-lighting. </p>
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<p>To all</p>
<p>As far as High Jacking this thread.... NO WORRIES... I'm sure the banjo was not the only instrument used during the Civil War.... I must say I'm…</p>
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So much for searching this subject. My Mac book is dead... Searching from the I phone is not easy. <br/><br/><cite>Jeff said:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Terry, Yes we did meet in Midland at the Midland Folk Music Society... You was teaching a clawhammer class... In which I must say was very good and in-lighting. </p>
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<p>To all</p>
<p>As far as High Jacking this thread.... NO WORRIES... I'm sure the banjo was not the only instrument used during the Civil War.... I must say I'm impressed with everybody knowledge, thoughts and chiming in... Good stuff good conversations...So by all means keep up with filling in the blanks... I hope we can find the answers to the questions for all of us. </p>
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</blockquote> Terry, Yes we did meet in Mid…tag:minstrelbanjo.ning.com,2011-12-22:2477478:Comment:598792011-12-22T17:47:24.231ZJeffhttp://minstrelbanjo.ning.com/profile/JeffFauver
<p>Terry, Yes we did meet in Midland at the Midland Folk Music Society... You was teaching a clawhammer class... In which I must say was very good and in-lighting. </p>
<p></p>
<p>To all</p>
<p>As far as High Jacking this thread.... NO WORRIES... I'm sure the banjo was not the only instrument used during the Civil War.... I must say I'm impressed with everybody knowledge, thoughts and chiming in... Good stuff good conversations...So by all means keep up with filling in the blanks... I hope…</p>
<p>Terry, Yes we did meet in Midland at the Midland Folk Music Society... You was teaching a clawhammer class... In which I must say was very good and in-lighting. </p>
<p></p>
<p>To all</p>
<p>As far as High Jacking this thread.... NO WORRIES... I'm sure the banjo was not the only instrument used during the Civil War.... I must say I'm impressed with everybody knowledge, thoughts and chiming in... Good stuff good conversations...So by all means keep up with filling in the blanks... I hope we can find the answers to the questions for all of us. </p>
<p> </p> Hi Jeff. We met at Midland, r…tag:minstrelbanjo.ning.com,2011-12-22:2477478:Comment:597022011-12-22T15:48:32.723ZBell Banjoshttp://minstrelbanjo.ning.com/profile/TerryBell
<p>Hi Jeff. We met at Midland, right?</p>
<p>Yours is a good question. I've often wondered about Michigan banjos of ANY kind.</p>
<p>Hi Jeff. We met at Midland, right?</p>
<p>Yours is a good question. I've often wondered about Michigan banjos of ANY kind.</p> Extent- I should pay more at…tag:minstrelbanjo.ning.com,2011-12-22:2477478:Comment:598782011-12-22T15:36:48.681ZJoel Hookshttp://minstrelbanjo.ning.com/profile/deuceswilde
<p>Extent- I should pay more attention. </p>
<p><br></br> <br></br> <cite>Joel Hooks said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://minstrelbanjo.ning.com/forum/comment/show?id=2477478%3AComment%3A59607&xn_out=json&firstPage=0&lastPage=1&xg_token=794200bcd76ef250a9e78a483116ec94&_=1324568056605#2477478Comment59607"><div><p>I think I wrote "to some extant, and very popular after the war," but I don't want to split hairs.</p>
<p>We do have a Howe tutor from 1850- there must have been some…</p>
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<p>Extent- I should pay more attention. </p>
<p><br/> <br/> <cite>Joel Hooks said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://minstrelbanjo.ning.com/forum/comment/show?id=2477478%3AComment%3A59607&xn_out=json&firstPage=0&lastPage=1&xg_token=794200bcd76ef250a9e78a483116ec94&_=1324568056605#2477478Comment59607"><div><p>I think I wrote "to some extant, and very popular after the war," but I don't want to split hairs.</p>
<p>We do have a Howe tutor from 1850- there must have been some type of market...</p>
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<p><br/> <cite>Ol' Dan Tucker said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://minstrelbanjo.ning.com/forum/topics/michigan-civil-war-banjo-s?xg_source=activity&id=2477478%3ATopic%3A59332&page=2#2477478Comment59876"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Excuse me for bending this thread a little more, again perhaps getting a little out of tune with the original poster's topic but i wanted to add to Joel's comment about the availability of accordeons <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">before</span></strong> the war. From casual research I got the impression that accordeon ( French made in this period) were nearly as ubiquitous as banjos. This was from doing word searches in google books (accordeon/accordion/flutina vs. banjo) and simply comparing the number of hits. Regards, Dave Culgan.</p>
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</blockquote> I think I wrote "to some exta…tag:minstrelbanjo.ning.com,2011-12-22:2477478:Comment:596072011-12-22T15:34:11.950ZJoel Hookshttp://minstrelbanjo.ning.com/profile/deuceswilde
<p>I think I wrote "to some extant, and very popular after the war," but I don't want to split hairs.</p>
<p>We do have a Howe tutor from 1850- there must have been some type of market...</p>
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<p><br></br> <cite>Ol' Dan Tucker said:…</cite></p>
<p>I think I wrote "to some extant, and very popular after the war," but I don't want to split hairs.</p>
<p>We do have a Howe tutor from 1850- there must have been some type of market...</p>
<p><a href="http://free-reed.net/reviews/elias_howe.html" target="_blank">http://free-reed.net/reviews/elias_howe.html</a></p>
<p><br/> <cite>Ol' Dan Tucker said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://minstrelbanjo.ning.com/forum/topics/michigan-civil-war-banjo-s?xg_source=activity&id=2477478%3ATopic%3A59332&page=2#2477478Comment59876"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Excuse me for bending this thread a little more, again perhaps getting a little out of tune with the original poster's topic but i wanted to add to Joel's comment about the availability of accordeons <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">before</span></strong> the war. From casual research I got the impression that accordeon ( French made in this period) were nearly as ubiquitous as banjos. This was from doing word searches in google books (accordeon/accordion/flutina vs. banjo) and simply comparing the number of hits. Regards, Dave Culgan.</p>
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</blockquote> Excuse me for bending this th…tag:minstrelbanjo.ning.com,2011-12-22:2477478:Comment:598762011-12-22T14:55:37.983ZDave Culganhttp://minstrelbanjo.ning.com/profile/OlDanTucker
<p>Excuse me for bending this thread a little more, again perhaps getting a little out of tune with the original poster's topic but i wanted to add to Joel's comment about the availability of accordeons <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">before</span></strong> the war. From casual research I got the impression that accordeon ( French made in this period) were nearly as ubiquitous as banjos. This was from doing word searches in google books (accordeon/accordion/flutina vs. banjo)…</p>
<p>Excuse me for bending this thread a little more, again perhaps getting a little out of tune with the original poster's topic but i wanted to add to Joel's comment about the availability of accordeons <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">before</span></strong> the war. From casual research I got the impression that accordeon ( French made in this period) were nearly as ubiquitous as banjos. This was from doing word searches in google books (accordeon/accordion/flutina vs. banjo) and simply comparing the number of hits. Regards, Dave Culgan.</p>
<p></p> When documenting banjoes or b…tag:minstrelbanjo.ning.com,2011-12-22:2477478:Comment:596942011-12-22T00:08:00.309ZCarl Andertonhttp://minstrelbanjo.ning.com/profile/CarlAnderton
<p>When documenting banjoes or banjo music for a specific reenacting impression, which I assume is what the original theme of this thread is, I personally rely first of all on minstrelsy's universal popularity as a blanket approach. Here's a quick reference on how popular minstrel tunes were:…</p>
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<p>When documenting banjoes or banjo music for a specific reenacting impression, which I assume is what the original theme of this thread is, I personally rely first of all on minstrelsy's universal popularity as a blanket approach. Here's a quick reference on how popular minstrel tunes were:</p>
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<p><a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=5LYUAAAAQAAJ&dq=great%20lakes%20banjo&pg=PA311#v=onepage&q=great%20lakes%20banjo&f=false" target="_blank">http://books.google.com/books?id=5LYUAAAAQAAJ&dq=great%20lakes%20banjo&pg=PA311#v=onepage&q=great%20lakes%20banjo&f=false</a></p>
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<p>Fine-tuning for a specific state documentation is great, but let's not lose sight of the tremendous resources on banjos in general that the great folks here have done already.</p>
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<p>We know Rumsey, Converse and Emmett were in Detriot- and we can imagine a host of lesser lights-- playing in the documented style of the tutors. Surviving banjos give us an excellent idea of what they were playing this documented music on. Soldiers and amatuers are naturally aping this music-- and there you have it.</p>
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<p>I wish you great good luck finding more details on specific Michigan references, but don't forget the wealth that is all around us.</p> Joel, I'd like to hear some o…tag:minstrelbanjo.ning.com,2011-12-21:2477478:Comment:596912011-12-21T22:20:51.829ZBell Banjoshttp://minstrelbanjo.ning.com/profile/TerryBell
<p>Joel, I'd like to hear some of your harmonica playing. That chord double tounge stuff fascinates me as much as the blues stuff. My grandpa played some in that style. You sound like you really know a lot about it. I've been dabbling with the harmonica for a few years, on the rack.</p>
<p>Joel, I'd like to hear some of your harmonica playing. That chord double tounge stuff fascinates me as much as the blues stuff. My grandpa played some in that style. You sound like you really know a lot about it. I've been dabbling with the harmonica for a few years, on the rack.</p> Sure It's in good fun on my e…tag:minstrelbanjo.ning.com,2011-12-21:2477478:Comment:597902011-12-21T19:12:22.779ZJoel Hookshttp://minstrelbanjo.ning.com/profile/deuceswilde
<p>Sure It's in good fun on my end as well.</p>
<p>But all the fancy trick harmonica playing is a 20th century device and would not have been used in the ACW had the harmonica been common.</p>
<p>A documented argument for this is the overwhelming number of octave or "concert" harmonicas in ads of the late 19th century. Not the first choice for "bending." Also the absence of an reference to it. Then all the sudden in the 1930s it is in all the harmonica instructor books.</p>
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<p>Sure It's in good fun on my end as well.</p>
<p>But all the fancy trick harmonica playing is a 20th century device and would not have been used in the ACW had the harmonica been common.</p>
<p>A documented argument for this is the overwhelming number of octave or "concert" harmonicas in ads of the late 19th century. Not the first choice for "bending." Also the absence of an reference to it. Then all the sudden in the 1930s it is in all the harmonica instructor books.</p>
<p>Then there is the note layout itself- clearly designed in imitation of the accordion (that's the 10 button/ bass chord layout), which we know were present to some extant, and very popular after the war.</p>
<p>Looking at harmonica design today- all innovations tend to be targeted towards the "bending" of notes.</p>
<p>Paralleling that with the evolution of the banjo- forward sound projection (with wire strings) and devices to keep the instrument stable from the added stress of wire. </p>
<p>Some of our jos' are monsters of volume, many of them louder than the bluegrass machines. I know two that are (mine and Carl's). But the design changed for carrying the tone at higher pitches. Then wire presented a whole set of new problems to be overcome.</p>
<p>Sorry for the hijack.</p>
<p>So who is making documented ACW harmonicas these days? I'd buy one. The earliest I know of is of 1897 pattern- and the cover-plates are different from the originals.</p>